Curse

T. Drake · Dec 14, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

I had a ranger before Factions release.
The Survivor Title appeared with Factions and I couldn't care less.

Brought this ranger through all three campaigns later, capped all elites, bought all skills and two 15K armours. He had 5 maxed titles.

I've deleted him and started a new ranger. He's got the survivor title now + 26 others.

So what is the problem?

Now, should I demand from A.Net to give me "my money" back which I used to equip my old ranger, because they suddenly decide to give pre-Factions characters a chance to get the title?
I have a new one, because I wanted the survivor title.

Day Trooper · Dec 14, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

I've deleted him and started a new ranger. He's got the survivor title now + 26 others....I have a new one, because I wanted the survivor title.

Well great for you! GGs

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

So what is the problem?

Simple! The problem is old chars never had a chance to go for this title. Just because you remade your char - doesn't mean everyone else had to do the same (no way I'll ever delete my main).

Again - what is your issue with this?

ANet can change this - it is a game after all (lord knows everything else in this game does!)

Day Trooper · Dec 14, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

I've deleted him and started a new ranger. He's got the survivor title now + 26 others....I have a new one, because I wanted the survivor title.

Well great for you! GGs

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

So what is the problem?

Simple! The problem is old chars never had a chance to go for this title. Just because you remade your char - doesn't mean everyone else had to do the same (no way I'll ever delete my main).

In addition - isn't deleting a character kind of a silly thing to ask players to do - to attain a title they never had a shot at??

Again - what is your issue with this?

ANet can change this - it is a game after all (lord know everything else in this game does!)

Mordakai · Dec 14, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

It's like Legendary Defender of Ascalon: You have to choose to pursue before a certain point in the game.

The fact that LDoA and Survivor are mutually exclusive is not by chance either....

Day Trooper · Dec 14, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

It's like Legendary Defender of Ascalon: You have to choose to pursue before a certain point in the game.

Precisely - but guess what? Old chars never had a chance to make this choice - since these titles didn't exist!

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

The fact that LDoA and Survivor are mutually exclusive is not by chance either....

/Agree with you here. Just make the title available only to those old chars without LDoA (which they wouldn't have anyways, per my first point above). /Done

T. Drake · Dec 14, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Day Trooper

Well great for you! GGs

Simple! The problem is old chars never had a chance to go for this title. Just because you remade your char - doesn't mean everyone else had to do the same (no way I'll ever delete my main).

In addition - isn't deleting a character kind of a silly thing to ask players to do - to attain a title they never had a shot at??

Again - what is your issue with this?

ANet can change this - it is a game after all (lord know everything else in this game does!)

Well let me put it like this, because it looks like it is not easy to see what I'm trying to say.

My old character had no choice either, so I "sacrificed" him to restart again and get the title.

So why can't you do the same? Is it laziness?

What the OP asks for is a chance to "get a shot at a title" again and again.
Yeah if you use certain way it's not a problem to reach 1.337.500 EP, but earning the money in order to pay the fee is not a problem either.

And I really don't want to think about the fact that this option would give the Database guys at A.Net a real headache. They would need to invest some money for this. For a game that they are already done with.

Isileth · Dec 14, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

My old character had no choice either, so I "sacrificed" him to restart again and get the title.

So why can't you do the same? Is it laziness?

The point is, its a bad mechanic. You shouldnt have to delete your char.

Just because others have done so, doesnt change the fact that the mechanic is still poor. This is a CORPG afterall. Deleting a char just to be able to attempt part of the game is bad enough, even more so when its an RPG.

Day Trooper · Dec 14, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by Isileth

The point is, its a bad mechanic. You shouldnt have to delete your char.

Just because others have done so, doesnt change the fact that the mechanic is still poor. This is a CORPG afterall. Deleting a char just to be able to attempt part of the game is bad enough, even more so when its an RPG.

QFT! So true indeed...

Lil Ferk · Dec 14, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

I'm probably sounding really ignorant here but couldn't you guys just make a new char work it up to ur main's status and delete ur main when he's no different from ur other char(except for maybe the name)

The only problem with that i can see would be bdays. But w/e i stated my idea what do u think?

Isileth · Dec 14, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by Lil Ferk

I'm probably sounding really ignorant here but couldn't you guys just make a new char work it up to ur main's status and delete ur main when he's no different from ur other char(except for maybe the name)

The only problem with that i can see would be bdays. But w/e i stated my idea what do u think?

The problem is most people dont have that time.

If they deleted it they would never get it back to the level it was at.
And then as you pointed out birthdays as well.

People shouldnt have to delete a char just to be able to show a title on their main char. Especially when they could have that title on another char.

While the player can and possibly has achieved it, they cant show it because it isnt on their main char.

Clarissa F · Dec 14, 2007, 11:26 PM // 23:26

ummm, delete your old character, use the exact same name and looks for the new character, get survivor. If you are REALLY that attached to the character, other than that "awesome" minipet farm it creates for you every year, to the point it hurts to delete it, then recreate the EXACT same character in name and looks, you have problems. Deep....deep problems.

Get help. Long term help.

And please, let's not hear of the "time invested in the character". It's not like you are investing in a profession or education. You are playing a game. It is fun, and yes, other real people play characters with you, but it's just a character in a game.

Isileth · Dec 14, 2007, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by Clarissa F

It is fun, and yes, other real people play characters with you, but it's just a character in a game.

And it would be more fun if we didnt have to delete chars and start over again.
I havent seen any posts here that come even close to your suggested attachment to a char. Its just a suggestion that chars created before the title can try and get it without having to start all over again.

TaCktiX · Dec 14, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I find it interesting that the only people overtly opposed to the change are the people who suckered up and deleted their characters for the sake of the title. It's as if the only way you can rationalize your personal decision to delete is to insist everyone else has to do it that way as well.

Clarissa F · Dec 14, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

point taken. Thing is, it doesn't take long to roll up a character and get him to level. Especially now, when you can get them to lvl 10, go to Lion's Arch, hop over to Kaineng or even EotN, now, get max armor and weapons, and buff your character to lvl 20. Especially with the EotN option, there is a greater chance to get survivor than ever: with very little time invested(a week at an hour or so a day and a few hours a day on the weekend).

Considering how many times this has been debated, if Anet were going to do it, it would be done. Kill your prize monk or whatever...have a beer...re-roll.

And if you are complaining because of having your character since the beginning of Proph, that is a bit of extreme sentimentality saved for the killing off of favorite characters in prime time tv dramas/soap operas. Go watch Oprah and reroll.

MithranArkanere · Dec 14, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Sorry, but I'm not deleting my characters with more than 600 purchased skills, and I still deserve being able to access a title that didn't exited before their creation.

Isileth · Dec 15, 2007, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Its not the level. A lot of people have 20+ titles on these chars. Titles that would take a long time to get again. People have armor and weapons etc.

Not everyone can play hours a day. A lot of players wouldnt not have time to get to that position again.

The reason they either delete or miss out is is because of this mechanic. That can be changed.

Solus Spartan · Dec 15, 2007, 03:04 AM // 03:04

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Sorry, but I'm not deleting my characters with more than 600 purchased skills

Then you don't get the title. Simple.

/endtopic.

Isileth · Dec 15, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

Then you don't get the title. Simple.

/endtopic.

Or, as we are suggesting, the mechanic that forces that choice can be remove/changed.

TaCktiX · Dec 15, 2007, 04:06 AM // 04:06

No, we couldn't possibly be suggesting that. How dare we use Sardelac Sanitarium for well-informed possible changes to the game we love that would make it better? I mean, the nerve of us...

Solus Spartan · Dec 15, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

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Originally Posted by Isileth

Or, as we are suggesting

As we? I haven't seem you suggest anything, just jumped on the rant-wagon.

Anyway, if this was an issue, should have been solved when the title was released. Not solved then, why would A-net care about it now.

I feel I've stated my points, thus I leave let this train-wreck idea die and not give it the attention.